Beniah
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Post by Beniah on Jun 29, 2004 13:16:19 GMT -5
To Beniah: It's great to find a Missler fan...particularly on an atheist website! Isn't he fantastic? The man knows so much about so many different things. Here is an in-the-flesh refutation of the "dumb Christian" concept if I ever knew one! I particularly like his presentation on the dimensions. I belong to his Berean online fellowship, do you? Yeah I'm not a member of the online fellowship, but I do get the news letter plus have many tapes of his. I used to listen to 66/40 on the radio (107.9 KWAVE in southern California) but it's not on the station anymore, or it's not on at a time I get to listen. But I do love the 66/40 archive at Khouse.org. I actually went to a Prophecy conference with him there. He's a great teacher. Have you listened to his friend Avi Lipkin? I bought his lecture series on video and really have enjoyed it. Yep he's very interesting as well. Have you ever listen to Bob Cornuke? Now that guy is pretty crazy.
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Post by william on Apr 29, 2005 4:36:32 GMT -5
So the scientific evidence is ? Im only on the first chapter, Ill get back to you.
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Post by william on Apr 29, 2005 4:39:42 GMT -5
Oh, the A Case for a Creator book? I've never read it. But if you guys are really interested in a pretty awesome book that talks about the origin of mankind AND the Supernatural origin of the Bible, then you should check out a book called The Creator, Beyond Time and Space by Chuck Missler and Dr. Mark Eastman. It's a good read. Also I'd suggest listening to the radio program 66/40 by Chuck Missler, which is free to listen to at his website khouse.org. I've never read A Case for Christ either!! I guess I'm a "slacker Christian". I don't really do what the majority of the Christian community does though. I absolutely HATE the "Purpose Driven Life" book, and almost ever Christian I know swears by it. Bah! Don't get me started!! Case for Christ is a good book. I gave it to an atheist who kept telling me there was no proof for Christianity. He took it but never read it.
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Post by solidsquid on Apr 29, 2005 13:40:43 GMT -5
Case for Christ is a good book. I gave it to an atheist who kept telling me there was no proof for Christianity. He took it but never read it. Is that another one of Strobel's books?
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twobirds
Seasoned Citizen
Religion is a con.
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Post by twobirds on Apr 29, 2005 17:45:21 GMT -5
I found god...now buy my book..give me a break....
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Post by william on Apr 30, 2005 2:11:31 GMT -5
Franc28If Strobel did in this book what he did in his previous ones, you won't find a shred of evidence. Probably just a bunch of crap about irreducible complexity and what not. You read his other books? so far he is debunking the Icons of evolution, I think Im on the second chapter.
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Post by william on Apr 30, 2005 2:12:10 GMT -5
Is that another one of Strobel's books? yes
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Post by william on Apr 30, 2005 2:17:24 GMT -5
I found god...now buy my book..give me a break.... there is a great market for books by former atheists. when I was trying to get my atheist friend to look at different books that offer evidence for Christianity, he refused them because they were written by Christians. He said they were biased. I gave him a couple for Christmas, he never read them.
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Post by solidsquid on Apr 30, 2005 12:00:36 GMT -5
I figured. It's on my list of "to get" books but there are many ahead of it.
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twobirds
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Post by twobirds on May 1, 2005 14:32:30 GMT -5
there is a great market for books by former atheists. when I was trying to get my atheist friend to look at different books that offer evidence for Christianity, he refused them because they were written by Christians. He said they were biased. I gave him a couple for Christmas, he never read them. Imagine that.
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Post by solidsquid on May 1, 2005 14:40:47 GMT -5
there is a great market for books by former atheists. when I was trying to get my atheist friend to look at different books that offer evidence for Christianity, he refused them because they were written by Christians. He said they were biased. I gave him a couple for Christmas, he never read them. Was it because of the content or just because he didn't have time or doesn't like reading?
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Post by william on May 1, 2005 23:42:04 GMT -5
Was it because of the content or just because he didn't have time or doesn't like reading? he was just being difficult, first he says "theres no evidence to support Christianity" so I say "Here is a book" he says" I cant trust that book its writen by a Christian"
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Post by droskey on May 2, 2005 12:27:35 GMT -5
william Yes. I read The Case for Christ and The Case for Faith. I wasn't particularly impressed by either. My problem with Strobel is that he tries to pass his books off as hard-hitting investigative research, but they are always extremely one-sided. It's ok to be one-sided, but don't try to pass yourself off as being investigative.
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Post by william on May 2, 2005 15:04:19 GMT -5
williamYes. I read The Case for Christ and The Case for Faith. I wasn't particularly impressed by either. My problem with Strobel is that he tries to pass his books off as hard-hitting investigative research, but they are always extremely one-sided. It's ok to be one-sided, but don't try to pass yourself off as being investigative. perhaps the asumption is that the other side has been pretty well known. in the case of his lettest its the only side permitted in the classroom of most schools, and in fact as I understand most atheists seem to want it that way. I have nt read case for faith but I do have it. I do admire your willingness to read them as apose to refusing like my friend.
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twobirds
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Religion is a con.
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Post by twobirds on May 2, 2005 16:31:06 GMT -5
he was just being difficult, first he says "theres no evidence to support Christianity" so I say "Here is a book" he says" I cant trust that book its writen by a Christian" I'm not trying to be an a$$ but why didn't you just hand him the Holy Bilble and tell him to read that, or is that not enough "evidence"?
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