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Post by Dragon*of*Heaven on May 8, 2008 13:47:19 GMT -5
God must have a begining becasue in order for him to exist he must be determinable from that which is around him. In other words if you picture a blackness and then envision a white ball in the center of this blackness the ball had to be determined from the darkness around it in order for it to be understood to exist. Therefor in much the same way God has to have a begining in order to be distinguished from all that is around him. I am not trying to show that God does not exist if man does not think of him (though this is true) rather I am attempting to show that all things even a God have a begining even if it is only the most minor of seperations. The moment God defind himself as exsiting he existed. Therefor God may be infinit but he must have a begining.
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Post by guerrillasaint on Jun 29, 2008 20:34:23 GMT -5
If you don't mind I would like to put my input in. Why do things have to define God? Why can't God define all that is around Him? This god that you are describing is not the God of creation. The God of creation made things and is the originator. This god would just be a maker of things an inventor not the beginning but close to the beginning. So if this god is close to the beginning what made it? Why does God need to be confined by time? I think what you are stating is a humanization of God. God may have made us in His image but He didn't make us exactly like Him. It is like parents. There children may look like them but they aren't them. God in His Godness is more than our concepts of God. If you look at the book of Genesis time didn't have a factor until after the fall. So humans can exist and were supposed to exist outside of time. If you take off you watch and just sit in a white room time doesn't seem to exist. Time is imaginary and only matters because we age and die. If we didn't die or age would time matter? Even if the sun went up and down and there were seasons?
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