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Post by AuntieSocial on Aug 20, 2004 14:27:04 GMT -5
Because in case you haven't noticed, the mafia and SK aren't working together. This means that it's potentially a good strategy for a SK to night-kill mafia (or mafia to night kill the SK) if they can figure out who it is. It reduces the possibility of dying at night for the evil roles. As Yaw has provided his reasons, I will post my thoughts, and I agree with Yaw here... 1) The SK and the Mafia are working independantly of one another 2) The SK and the Mafia are subject to each other's targeting during the night 3) If the SK or both Mafia are eliminated, either during day-lynches or night-kills, the remaining evil faction gets to kill every night until they are stopped Based on this, Yaw's speculations make sense. If the town lynched one of the mafia today, and the SK can figure out who the partner is, and eliminates them tonight, the SK would have free reign over the night-time terror. The SK also will be more difficult to corner, as we don't have the benefit of watching how suspected partners will interact, which is a key element in rooting out the mafia evil from our fair town.
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Post by Superhappyjen on Aug 20, 2004 15:24:57 GMT -5
As Yaw has provided his reasons, I will post my thoughts, and I agree with Yaw here... 1) The SK and the Mafia are working independantly of one another 2) The SK and the Mafia are subject to each other's targeting during the night 3) If the SK or both Mafia are eliminated, either during day-lynches or night-kills, the remaining evil faction gets to kill every night until they are stopped Based on this, Yaw's speculations make sense. If the town lynched one of the mafia today, and the SK can figure out who the partner is, and eliminates them tonight, the SK would have free reign over the night-time terror. The SK also will be more difficult to corner, as we don't have the benefit of watching how suspected partners will interact, which is a key element in rooting out the mafia evil from our fair town. So, do you feel it would be better to try to go after the sk first?
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Post by Yaw on Aug 20, 2004 15:39:29 GMT -5
That's the whole point. It doesn't matter who we go after first. As long as we lynch scum, we're doing well. Keep in mind we have two cops in this game that will be investigating for us. That's a big help too.
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Post by AuntieSocial on Aug 20, 2004 19:13:27 GMT -5
So, do you feel it would be better to try to go after the sk first? I think there would be a marginal advantage to offing the sk first, although just lynching a scum is in our advantage. The reason I think lynching the sk is marginally more advantageous is because lynching a mafiosa will result in having two independents, which eliminates the ability to watch interactions between partners. Either way, we need to get a scumbag ...
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Post by Yaw on Aug 20, 2004 20:04:51 GMT -5
Well, if you want to think that way, it's marginally better for us to off a maf first, because that leaves open the possibility of the scum night killing one another. But any scum will do. There are enough players that it isn't important at the moment.
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Post by Superhappyjen on Aug 20, 2004 22:00:58 GMT -5
Another reason it might be better to off the sk first is because there is only one sk and 2 mafia. The mafia and sk are against each other right? So when we want to off the sk the mafia are on our side, so to speak. Two votes carry more weight than one.
Unfortunately I'm looking mostly at partner interactions to determine who is scum. To the sk: raise your hand so we can lynch you!
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Post by pieisgood on Aug 21, 2004 0:20:50 GMT -5
A couple news announcements--
1) unfortunately, resident MMCL has decided to sell his house. Real estate agents will be out looking for a taker.
2) resident Nonny has vacationed out of anonyma and will be back soon.
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Post by nonny on Aug 21, 2004 22:19:02 GMT -5
uh i'm back.... ;D Was I missed?
I shall do a read through tomarrow and post more then.
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Post by pieisgood on Aug 22, 2004 10:07:59 GMT -5
aaaaaand nevermind.
MMCL told me you'd be gone for a week.
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Post by Narninian on Aug 23, 2004 1:27:07 GMT -5
Arrived in California
Will catch up and report Tuesday ish
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Post by Superhappyjen on Aug 23, 2004 10:27:48 GMT -5
California? Say hi to Arnie for me. ;D
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Post by Maverick on Aug 23, 2004 14:10:09 GMT -5
It seems like there an assumption that the mafia and the SK must be working in opposition to one another. Where did this assumption come from? All we know is that the mafia and the SK are not working together. There is nothing in the opening post to indicate that they are out to kill each other.
In fact, wouldn't it be advantageous for the SK to avoid killing the mafia? The SK is also a target of the town. The SK, knowing this, might try to increase his chances of staying alive by trying to avoid lynching others who kill townspeople. Where most of you assume competition between the SK and the mafia, I believe there might be an opportunity for an indirect alliance. Anyone else feel like this might be possible?
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Post by AuntieSocial on Aug 23, 2004 14:59:24 GMT -5
The first post specifically states that the mafia cannot win unless they outnumber the citizens and the SK is dead. The SK will win if it comes down to them and one other (it doesn't stipulate that this one other can't be a mafia)
Also, implicitely working together would require them knowing who one another are. I'm not aware that the baddies know the identities of one another and imagine that they don't (or it would be easy for the mafia to achieve one of their objectives, having the SK dead).
I've never dealt with the likes of an SK before, so I'm not entirely certain how to go about sniffing them out of their ratholes and hollows.
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Post by AuntieSocial on Aug 23, 2004 15:01:19 GMT -5
Well, if you want to think that way, it's marginally better for us to off a maf first, because that leaves open the possibility of the scum night killing one another. But any scum will do. There are enough players that it isn't important at the moment. On further thought, I agree with Yaw ... it is marginally better if the two factions may be hitting/targeting each other ... any scum'll do.
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Post by Yaw on Aug 23, 2004 15:15:49 GMT -5
I hate to have to do this...
Ck said in AIM that he's having his computer confiscated for a month. Or until Christmas. I'm not entirely sure. At any rate, he says if he doesn't show up tomorrow online to replace him. I'll post tomorrow with an update.
Response to other stuff coming later.
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