Mafia Game Strategy & Playing Style

[Maverick]

I find it necessary now to step out of my Mafia 4 role for a moment. For the purposes of this game (and future games), do not consider the comments in between my role flags (“non-mafia maverick” and “/non-mafia maverick”) as game play commentary.

We have reached a point in the Mafia 4 where players are beginning to mix game play with non-game commentary. Part of my Mafia game playing strategy involves completely immersing myself in the role of the game. Therefore, when I make a comment in a Mafia thread, it will always be meant for the purpose of playing the Mafia game and nothing more. If I want to make comments about Mafia strategy, reactions, etc, I will always make this commentary outside of the game thread or in the game thread when the game is officially over.

To make it clear to those who might be wondering: I know this is a game. I know that the lynching in the thread is not a lynching in real life. But when I make comments in a Mafia thread, I will act like the lynching is real to enhance my role and make the game interesting. Therefore, please do not mix game commentary with non-game commentary.

I propose that we institute a rule designating comments made in game threads as isolated to the game and that all comments made 1. in a game thread, 2. during active game play are to be interpreted only for the purpose of playing the game itself.

Mafia 4 players: Please confirm that you have read this post. If you wish to respond also, I would be more than happy to read further comments.

[Yaw]

Um...what was the point of this? So you like to roleplay. I don't see what the big deal about that is, or the reason that required an additional thread. I'm just sort of puzzled...

[Narninian]

I dont think we should discuss mafia 4 outside thread. If you want to say that you are treating lynching as a real thing - say it in thread.....

[AuntieSocial]

I've read this and understand that you enjoy role playing and want to get the most fun out of the game as possible.

In a way, I can see the point of having a thread to discuss general strategy so that it doesn't become part of what influences the current game. Due to the fact that many of us are new to Mafia Scum, we do have questions from time to time (i.e. why a mafioso would go against a partner, etc), and the commentary can detract from the game. I don't think that it is detrimental to any particular player, but it does affect the atmoshere.

[Maverick]

Yaw

Um...what was the point of this? So you like to roleplay. I don't see what the big deal about that is, or the reason that required an additional thread. I'm just sort of puzzled...

There are a couple of reasons for the new thread. First, we were going to open a thread about game strategy soon anyway (for those who didn’t know this, read the last sign-up thread). Second, I wanted to talk about a part of my strategy that I thought might be confusing to some people (especially those new to the game). In short, it’s about clarity.

Narninian

I dont think we should discuss mafia 4 outside thread. If you want to say that you are treating lynching as a real thing - say it in thread.....

Just to clarify, this thread wasn’t intended only for Mafia 4. It’s just a thread for general Mafia strategy discussion. As to your second comment about lynching, my statement about treating lynching as a real thing wasn’t intended for the game. That is why I mentioned it here instead.

[Yaw]

Sorry, but Narninian's right here. It's fine to discuss strategy outside of the game thread, but not while the game is in progress. If you're worried people are misreading you in-thread, take it up in-thread. None of us should be trying to influence a game in progress with stuff outside of the game.

[Maverick]

Yaw said:

Sorry, but Narninian's right here. It's fine to discuss strategy outside of the game thread, but not while the game is in progress.

That is essentially the point of my first post: to draw a line between what is appropriate in-thread and what is better out of the thread.

Yaw

If you're worried people are misreading you in-thread, take it up in-thread. None of us should be trying to influence a game in progress with stuff outside of the game.

I didn't address this in-thread because I didn't want it to be interpeted as my role's response. I don't see why this is so difficult to understand.

I am not trying to influence the game. I've only discussed how I will seperate my game self from my non-game self. How does that amount to influencing any part of the game in progress?

[Narninian]

Here's the problem: you are trying to justify in-game actions by making posts outside the thread - Players shouldnt have to read multiple threads to be able to accurately read you.

[Maverick]

Narninian said:

Here's the problem: you are trying to justify in-game actions by making posts outside the thread - Players shouldnt have to read multiple threads to be able to accurately read you.

Can you please identify the specific in-game action I am trying to justify here?

[Yaw]

My comment was more about principle than substance. I don't think that there's anything in here that necessarily compromises the game. My point was more that threads such as this one could compromise games in progress if they deal with stuff inside a game in progress, and as such those sorts of topics are a bad idea.

[Narninian]

I just think that if you are going to talk about your strategy, it should be done in thread. Discussion of ideal strategies is often part of in-game commentary, often players might skew what the 'ideal strategy' is based on their role. I dont think its right for players of a mafia game to discuss what ideal strategy is for the mafia game. From what I gather, you basically started this thread because you were acting like a lynch is a bad thing in thread and you were roleplaying - you didnt people to think you were suspicious because of it. Instead of requiring all the players to read a seperate thread, thats 'not part of the game' to understand this - it should be done in thread. If you're worried that role playing will make you suspicious w/o outside the thread reading to justify it, then you should be careful how you roleplay.

No offense is meant to be taken here, I just think that all mafia discussion should be done in thread - when the game is over we can discuss strategy, and playing styles.

[Maverick]

Yaw said:

My comment was more about principle than substance. I don't think that there's anything in here that necessarily compromises the game. My point was more that threads such as this one could compromise games in progress if they deal with stuff inside a game in progress, and as such those sorts of topics are a bad idea.

I understand your point and it is a valid one. I thought by addressing a general playing strategy that I use now (instead of later), I could prevent any confusions that might develop from people who don't understand that I keep my in-thread self seperate from the rest of the board.

What I originally intended to be a clarification has caused more confusion. For that, I apologize.

Narninian, I didn't mean for people to think that my strategy is the 'ideal strategy' for Mafia games.

Narninian

From what I gather, you basically started this thread because you were acting like a lynch is a bad thing in thread and you were roleplaying - you didnt people to think you were suspicious because of it. Instead of requiring all the players to read a seperate thread, thats 'not part of the game' to understand this - it should be done in thread. If you're worried that role playing will make you suspicious w/o outside the thread reading to justify it, then you should be careful how you roleplay.

You have valid points also and I am glad that you shared them. The reason why I made my comments here was because I didn't want my first post in this thread to be perceived as part of the game. As to your last comment, I do believe that I have been careful in how I roleplayed. But I won't get into specifics (at least until the game is offically over).

Narninian

No offense is meant to be taken here, I just think that all mafia discussion should be done in thread - when the game is over we can discuss strategy, and playing styles.

No offense taken. I don't want you (or other posters) to avoid questioning my decisions just because I am the administrator of this board. I welcome your opinions even if they conflict with mine and I won't take offense to constructive criticism.

[Superhappyjen]

I believe what you have said here Mav, is a direct response to something I said to you during the game. I don't think you should be allowed to do this. It doesn't matter whether you intended to compromise the game or not.

Don't worry about me Mav, I would never avoid questioning your decisions just because you are the administrator. I'm annoying that way.

[Maverick]

Superhappyjen said:

I believe what you have said here Mav, is a direct response to something I said to you during the game. I don't think you should be allowed to do this. It doesn't matter whether you intended to compromise the game or not.

Just as I said to Narninian, thanks for sharing your opinion. I'll make a note of these concerns for the future.

Superhappyjen

Don't worry about me Mav, I would never avoid questioning your decisions just because you are the administrator. I'm annoying that way.

Then be annoying. I welcome the annoyance.