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Post by Dragon*of*Heaven on Oct 4, 2005 14:31:18 GMT -5
Hello all. Well I am currently attending a catholic college and being as I have a wealth of info at my disposal I did some searching. What I found is one of the most basic statements that allows the faithful to prove to themselves that a god exists.
By this statement one can make a map showing the effect. 'A' representing the unmoved mover, subsequent letters representing the actions by the first.
A>B>C>D>E>F>G......
No matter what if one looked to the bigging one would find 'A' or the "unmoved mover". I asked about another possible outcome of which I was accused of using circular logic. My statement is as follows: The end result of an action is the reason for its action. Ergo the first is moved by its own action. Or to be better put A>B>C>D>A (where as A is the cause of A) resulting in A>B>C>D>A>B>C>D>A....... A circle would better put this. Another way to put it would be: I move a chair (A) resulting in: to put it where i want it (B) A there for being the reason for the action to begin with.
What do you guys think? Am I totally off my rocker?
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Post by vertigo on Oct 6, 2005 15:17:33 GMT -5
That statement says nothing more than that we classify things by their differences. We differentiate between the mover and the moved. I am forced to ask: so what?
We can't perceive the supernatural by definition, so this statement about perception has nothing to do with it.
You move a chair because you want to move the chair. The desire comes before the action.
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Post by Dragon*of*Heaven on Oct 7, 2005 8:19:17 GMT -5
oh yeah you put up a good point vertigo I dont know why I did not see it. thank you ^!^
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