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Post by A Souless Demon on Dec 15, 2004 18:47:41 GMT -5
In the beginning, god the devil created the heavens and the earth, god the devil also created people, then the world has been HELL since, god the devil made poisonous snakes to kill, life is a video game that god the devil pushes, and angels are minions of the evil one, there is only evil, there is no good, for god the devil is evil, and so are the possessed people...
Who made the video game? The maker Who also made up rules
Can the video game maker change rules or defy rules - yes!
same with evil god god makes life god makes rules god breaks rules
the whole thing goes back to the nature of evil there is no good or evil if everything is evolved because that means everything changes definitions change no absolutes but theists believe in god and that's EVIL! so where does that evil come from? from EVIL people and an EVIL god! there ain't no socially defined sets of good and evil generally, calling people derogatory names in any damn society is bad so where does this come from? and evolved sense of community? why have community when you can have planet earth all to yourself? survival of the fittest! c'mon FUCKERS! calling names is deemed bad but who cares? god is EVIL! But why is it bad? Ain't it simply an evolved sensibility? Ain't I simply elevating myself over others due to my evolved instinct to be the survival of the fittest and to destroy others before they destroy me?
The atheist is happier.
The regions of the world with the highest quality of life ratings are some of the most secular areas in the world. Developed nations, compared to undeveloped nations, typically have much higher quality of life ratings and have much less religious belief.
Religion flourishes in Africa and the Middle East, while secularism flourishes in Europe, Japan, and North America (especially Canada).
Religion is abundant in prisons, homeless shelters, and ghettos. Secularism is abundant in Universities and affluent neighborhoods.
Religion involves death and judgementalism and fear. Secular humanism involves life and acceptance and trust.
Atheists are happier
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Post by solidsquid on Dec 15, 2004 19:23:54 GMT -5
In the beginning, god the devil created the heavens and the earth, god the devil also created people, then the world has been HELL since, god the devil made poisonous snakes to kill, life is a video game that god the devil pushes, and angels are minions of the evil one, there is only evil, there is no good, for god the devil is evil, and so are the possessed people... So are expressing a belief in a deity? I'm sure from what you've posted. Still confused about if you believe a deity exists but is evil or if this is just sarcasm. Social networks of individuals have existed since our ancestors on the savannahs in Africa. Morals arose from those interactions. Social Darwinist? I would be interested to see from whence the statistics came. Are you sure about Japan? I thought it was more secular than the U.S. I think Germany was one of the most secular nations in the world...if remember correctly.
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Post by A Souless Demon on Dec 15, 2004 19:31:32 GMT -5
ok, I do not believe in a deity. I am merely making a point of view for theists. I am trying to explain that through all common knowledge, the lord would indeed be EVIL. And i referred to a video game because in "God The Devil's" eyes, our lives are that of a video game. He will play with one of us until we die or he gets bored and plays with someone else's life. and about Japan being secular, I may be wrong, I'm not very good in social
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Post by Papsmearmycat on Dec 15, 2004 20:03:09 GMT -5
Its God's fault that people ruined His creation?
I guess that would depend on what you mean by "highest quality of life." All of the technology we have today, while it does make things more conveniet, makes us slaves. The people in Africa who live close to the Earth know true happiness. They never have to worry about the electricity being shut off, or the grocery stores closing. They know how to live free of the worries that plauge modern man. How many would starve or die of thirst if the water was shut off and the supermarkets closed? Without knowledge of primitive survival, and basic awareness, man is doomed.
So is suicide.
If that is how you believe we should act, I think I should come and kill you, along with all of the people around me; so that there will be no threats to my survival.
You don't sound like an atheist to me, more like a follower of Satan. You should really think before you type, unless you would like me to point out every time you have contradicted yourself, in a private message of course.
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Post by A Souless Demon on Dec 15, 2004 20:11:23 GMT -5
how can i be a follower of satan if i do not believe in satan? do not take what i say literally, what i said was not fact, or what i truly believe, but more of a point. a point for a theist to think about.
since i do not believe in god... and this is obviously referring to someone who DOES, then what i said is not in truth of what i believe ok?
so stop shitting on my parade!
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Post by Papsmearmycat on Dec 15, 2004 20:22:10 GMT -5
I have thought about God, very often. I have done my research on plenty of religions. I have come to the conclusion that the only reason there is any suffering in the world today is because people thought they could improve upon God. Silly, isn't it?
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Post by A Souless Demon on Dec 15, 2004 20:35:28 GMT -5
hmm
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Post by ToxicMoon on Dec 16, 2004 7:18:20 GMT -5
I think Satanism is just the same as Christianity, except opposite. Everything has it's equal and opposite counter-part. Satanists believe the Christian god is evil and crazy, and their god is good, while Christians believe the opposite. However, they both believe that Jesus is on their side. I guess he's right in the middle of the spectrum. A Souless Demon's post looked like it started out satanic, but ended with rejection of both religions. A Souless Demon, what exactly are your beliefs (or disbeliefs)? Your posts have confused me a bit. I'm not sure if you lean towards Satanism or if you have rejected all religion. This is not intended to insult or start an argument, I just want clarification because I'm truly confused.
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Post by A Souless Demon on Dec 16, 2004 9:29:27 GMT -5
we are not talking about satanism, my point was that if god existed, he would be evil and not this "good guy" as christians seem to portray him
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Post by Papsmearmycat on Dec 16, 2004 10:08:52 GMT -5
Killing 10,000 people is bad and evil. Killing 10,000 muderers, rapists, child mollesters, and other such criminals creates a safer environment for honest people with strong moral fiber. Of course, while they were being killed, these criminals would say their killers are evil. But, assuming the Bible is true, they will have a second chance after the resurrection, so really, its just temporary confinement.
Do you see my point? Sometimes a seemingly evil act have good intentions.
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Post by solidsquid on Dec 16, 2004 13:10:14 GMT -5
ok, I do not believe in a deity. I am merely making a point of view for theists. I am trying to explain that through all common knowledge, the lord would indeed be EVIL. Ah, thanks for the clarification. Okay, now I see...I was confused by the statement made previously.
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Post by vertigo on Dec 16, 2004 14:57:04 GMT -5
... says PSMC while spouting incredulity. I can do nought but laugh.
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Post by A Souless Demon on Dec 16, 2004 16:48:07 GMT -5
so you think killing 10000 rapists and murderers is GOOD? you would burn in hell for the rest of eternity and have satan stick needles in your eye just for killing one person. instead why dont you concentrate on HELPING those people instead of wanting them to all die. you are a disturbed child inside.
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Post by Papsmearmycat on Dec 16, 2004 17:54:50 GMT -5
Not true, killing isn't a sin. Murder is. Big difference.
And i don't believe people go to Heaven or Hell, like i said, I believe in a resurrection.
Some people don't want help, but if possible, Im sure God would try to help those people.
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Post by solidsquid on Dec 16, 2004 19:34:06 GMT -5
Not true, killing isn't a sin. Murder is. Big difference. And i don't believe people go to Heaven or Hell, like i said, I believe in a resurrection. Some people don't want help, but if possible, Im sure God would try to help those people. Just outta of curiosity, have you ever critically analyzed your reasons for deity belief PSMC?
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