ToxicMoon
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Post by ToxicMoon on Feb 15, 2005 3:58:43 GMT -5
My experience leads me to believe you can't have both, so I guess it's more to each their own. That was just my opinion from my experience, as you have your opinion from your experience.
What's really important in the end is that you learn something from it, and heal your wounds the best you're able.
I'm sorry to hear you've experienced such things.
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Post by nonny on Feb 15, 2005 4:02:58 GMT -5
good point yeah to each there own.
And I have.
(nice pic incasei ahvnt said so before)
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Post by ToxicMoon on Feb 15, 2005 4:04:47 GMT -5
Thank you. I only wish I had drawn it myself.  |
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Post by necroshine on Feb 15, 2005 6:26:44 GMT -5
From what I have seen you can have both Fear and love at the same time. Why can’t you? You can love someone because they are the father or mother of your children and you have spent 20 years with them but then they have a problem or dark side to them. that is what you fear. I have seen it many times. People change and strange things happen when people get drunk or do not get there way about something. It’s a sad situation but it is a fact of life. To me it describes god more than anything else.
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Post by Dragon*of*Heaven on Feb 15, 2005 23:56:34 GMT -5
Good point necroshine but might i point out that we are talking about the relationship between a God and humainty. This God in question is supposidly all powerfull. Also in accordance to the belive we are suposed to love him completely and fully. There fore even though they are the basis of our thinking, human relationships are a littel baseless. I would think (judgeing on its idea alone as I am not a beliver) it would call for some thinking out side the box.
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Post by ToxicMoon on Feb 16, 2005 5:28:01 GMT -5
From what I have seen you can have both Fear and love at the same time. Why can’t you? You can love someone because they are the father or mother of your children and you have spent 20 years with them but then they have a problem or dark side to them. that is what you fear. I have seen it many times. People change and strange things happen when people get drunk or do not get there way about something. It’s a sad situation but it is a fact of life. To me it describes god more than anything else. I believe there are different kinds of fear. It seems you have described a fear for a fellow human's safety or well-being (which is really concern or pity), and not the fear for one's own life and well-being. People usually do not fear for a god's safety. They are generally not afraid that a god is going to harm itself or others around it. They fear because they think the god is going to hurt them. If they were in the presence of a god, they would be uncomfortable, afraid and wondering if they are going to be harmed. That's not showing love or respect at all. That's just showing fear. If they knew that their god was not going to harm them, they would not be afraid to be in his presence. They would be comfortable and enjoy it. They would love the god, not fear it. I still believe that you cannot love and fear someone or something at the same time. You can love and respect someone or something at the same time, but fear cannot be a part of it. Fear is an emotion that stands alone. Good point necroshine but might i point out that we are talking about the relationship between a God and humainty. This God in question is supposidly all powerfull. Also in accordance to the belive we are suposed to love him completely and fully. There fore even though they are the basis of our thinking, human relationships are a littel baseless. I would think (judgeing on its idea alone as I am not a beliver) it would call for some thinking out side the box. If I understand correctly, you are saying that a relationship between a person and their god(s) is so different from a relationship between a person and another person that you cannot use human relationships as a model (or base) for a relationship with a god. That leaves me with a few questions What are we suppose to compare or base this relationship off of if we only understand earthly relationships? We have no examples or documentation of any other relationships. Which religion's god is being discussed? I'm not sure what type of god was in mind when this thread started, so I assumed it was the Christian's definition of god. According to Christian beliefs, their god made humans in his image, and came down to earth as a human. It seems logical to me that their relationship with their god would be more like a human relationship, than anything else. |
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Post by Dragon*of*Heaven on Feb 17, 2005 0:08:15 GMT -5
yes toxic moon I belive I did leave it way to open after all. I was applying it to the christan God. To answer your question, I have been told that a God cannot be measured by this world and by any thing on it. There for i took this to mean human relationships as well. Perhaps I was a bit quick, I will have to think on it some more. Thank you.
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