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Post by necroshine on Feb 28, 2005 20:06:17 GMT -5
Do you think if faith healers are real, do you not think that there would be at least one around the pope? But no one is laying hands on the pope to help him. He is in the hospital. that is where the pope ran. That alone tells me there is no such thing as faith healers.
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Post by Enuffalready on Mar 1, 2005 3:16:54 GMT -5
Faith healers are as bunk as it gets. I've said it previously but any result from faith healers is the power of suggestion plain and simple placebo effect. It pisses me off when someone has a talented group of doctors breakthrough medicine then chalk up thier survival up to prayer and say nothing of the work of the doctors or the years of medical research that went in to thier care.
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Post by Filter on Mar 1, 2005 10:36:04 GMT -5
Do you think if faith healers are real, do you not think that there would be at least one around the pope? But no one is laying hands on the pope to help him. He is in the hospital. that is where the pope ran. That alone tells me there is no such thing as faith healers. Faith Healers may be charlatans, but they are no fools. The Pope is old, and even they know the stats on that one!! Stay clear they will…
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Post by Godislove on Mar 1, 2005 16:25:21 GMT -5
hello athiests ;D,
as much as you do not want to believe that healing is fake, too bad! its all true. sorry if i bursted all of your athiest bubbles! I have said in other discussions how God has healed many people in front of my face. it has nothing to do with convincing anyone. there have been times where people wer healed in the parking lot of crusades and they run in to tell everyone that they were healed! im sure when you are dying on your bed in the hospital and you hear your loved one next to you telling you to fight it and saying "dont leave me" lines, thats enough convincing for you to want to heal yourself right? why doesnt it happen then! I as a christian, do not disregard what medicine does for us! medicine is a blessing, but i find it odd how a woman who goes to the doctor two days before a miracle crusade and finds out she has a tumor that is rapidly growing, gets healed of it in my face and in front of her husband and sons face (who is a doctor himself) even before she took the medicine doctors and her son himself prescribed her to take! you all dont have to believe me, but i know you are thinking twice about how you think of God! he is real, you could curse me and call me names, and even threaten to murder me! but I KNOW HE IS REAL!!! not just by what has happened in my life, but in the lives of others!!!!!! my youth pastor's wife was healed of chrones disease! she weighed 90 pounds and had four kids!!!! she was dying, but God healed her. she went to a thousand churches!!!! and nothing happened, the doctors told her she wasnt going to make it! but then she went to a miracle crusade and she said she felt like a lightining bolt go straight to her stomach and she got super hot!! the pastor (guillermo maldonado) told her that God healed her, and the next day, she went to the doctors and they were amazed cause she was healed!!!!! she was supposed to die!!!! but God said otherwise!! hello? chromes disease does not just go away like that! these are some of the many miracles i have heard of or experienced. you dont have to believe me, but i have even seen the medical records! come on!! God wants to show you the same thing, but all you need is FAITH!! and a belief in him that goes beyond anything you yourself can understand! thats why im telling you necroshine, your father WILL be healed, in JESUS CHRISTS NAME!
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Post by necroshine on Mar 1, 2005 19:38:42 GMT -5
Umm, yea, Well. like I said, if you think that faith healers are real that the pope would have one lay hands on him in front of everyone. Then let us see him get up and start walking around. We all know that it isn’t going to happen. There is a reason that doctors are millionaires. Come on who would believe that crap. If it was real you could just walk down to you local healers shop and get your blood pressure fixed. Why isn’t it like that if faith healers are real?
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Post by Hilly on Mar 1, 2005 19:41:02 GMT -5
Godislove, it is my opinion that you are only proselytizing here (and rather poorly at that) and it is my wish that you would please go away.
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Post by Filter on Mar 1, 2005 22:25:37 GMT -5
I as a christian, do not disregard what medicine does for us! medicine is a blessing... What would "your" world possibly need with medicine? Something to sustain infidels until they get God?
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Post by Enuffalready on Mar 1, 2005 22:52:46 GMT -5
Godislove, it is my opinion that you are only proselytizing here (and rather poorly at that) and it is my wish that you would please go away. I'm with you there hilly!
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Post by Enuffalready on Mar 1, 2005 22:58:05 GMT -5
hello athiests ;D, as much as you do not want to believe that healing is fake, too bad! its all true. sorry if i bursted all of your athiest bubbles Nope didnt burst my bubble. As far as I'm concerned an ascertion of truth on your part is as good as saying its false. Thanks for firming it up for me. You keep doing it, saying all this crap you've "seen". I hate to burst YOUR bubble that means nothing here. All of your christian buddies may be sheep and just believe because you said you seen it or some asshole preacher said it. If it hasn't occured to you yet your gonna have to do better here.
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Post by Godislove on Mar 2, 2005 17:06:13 GMT -5
to necroshine,
Mark 8:11 - The Pharisees came and began to question Jesus. To test him, they asked him for a sign from heaven. 12 - He sighed deeply and said, “Why does this generation ask for a miraculous sign? I tell you the truth, no sign will be given to it.” heres the issue with you. You want a sign from God, but you know the word of God already! WHY dont you get to see healings? easy! lack of faith. because of that lack of faith you will not see anything, until your faith goes beyond your human rationalization on it. Healing is also a gift, some people suffer for years before they get healed, some get healed after just finding out about there sickness! its a fact that we as humans have no right to determine how healing SHOULD be, cause we are not God! thast the same as questioning an infinite God in a finite world!
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Post by Godislove on Mar 2, 2005 17:07:16 GMT -5
to Hilly,
Sorry, as long as God tells me to stay here writing to you his truths, i wont go away! ;D
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Post by Godislove on Mar 2, 2005 17:14:37 GMT -5
to filter, wow, what a response! Medicine is needed here, unfortuantely im sorry that you lost God, after 35 years. im really goign to be praying for you. seriously. if you have read some of my responses to other discussions on this website, and what God was saying through me is new to you, then i understand why you gave up with the lord. God wants a relationship!!!! and if your prayer life is not strong the devil will win!
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Post by Godislove on Mar 2, 2005 17:23:58 GMT -5
to enuffalready,
thanks for the encouragement, i will do better in proving how real Gods healing hand is!! i will try my best to get my youth pastors wife's medical records on how her chrones disease when she was healed from it. plus when we do have healing crusades, i will try and take photos, so you all will stop saying Gods miracles arent real! still, i can show you all this, but it takes all of you to believe it is real! thi site has nothing to do with healing but it has sounds from hell heard by scientists studying plate tectonics_______www.av1611.org/hell.html______its too bad that i might have you respond to me saying how fake it is when you dont have any real evidence, and no faith to believe it is real! hey, if im right, you might end up here! JUST THINK ABOUT IT!
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Post by Filter on Mar 2, 2005 17:58:59 GMT -5
If it hasn't occured to you yet your gonna have to do better here. "Amen" to that!! ;D
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Post by Filter on Mar 2, 2005 18:04:28 GMT -5
im sorry that you lost God, after 35 years. They have medication for that! ;D No seriously, don't worry about it. My mind is getting clearer every day. I love conciousness and the wonder of the universe. (the authors of the Bible did not foresee the overwhelming evidence that would counter their imaginitive telling of creation) So do you plan on hijacking every thread? What was this one called?
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