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Post by necroshine on Nov 26, 2005 19:11:49 GMT -5
Someone help me out here.
There is a story in the bible where god tells a man to kill his kid to prove his faith in god. Now in this story god sends down an angle to stop this man from doing it. The story reads like the man did the best thing. By not doing gods will. When is it ok to not do what god tells you to do?
Adam and eve bit the apple after god told them not to. This is after an angle told them that it was ok to eat it. Why is it ok for man to follow what a angle says compared to what god says?
If any of you can tell me the story in the bible about the man killing his son that would b great.
Is it or is it not ok to go against what god tells you to do?
On one hand it is ok and on the other everyone in the world gets punished. Not quite even is it?
sorry for any tyops and misspellings i'm flying stupid today.
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Post by created101 on Nov 27, 2005 5:26:44 GMT -5
That story is about Abraham, and God told him to sacrifice his son to God, to prove his faith. God never actualy wanted him to, it waz just a test of faith. God told the angel to stop Abraham, and God provided a ram as a sacrifice for him. -He was doing Gods will.
Also The angel in the garden Was in the form of a serpent - satin - the devil. he did not tell them to, he just said that it wasnt realy all that bad, and nothing bad would come of it.
it is never alright to obey another over God, not even angels! Remember, Satin was once the angel of light
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The Reservoir Dog
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I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just gonna ask where they're goin' and meet up with em' later.
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Post by The Reservoir Dog on Nov 27, 2005 15:16:42 GMT -5
And this means what exactly? To trust nothing because god never speaks to anyone. What a precarious position. I prefer following what I feel is right.
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Post by solidsquid on Nov 27, 2005 15:38:03 GMT -5
I had some sheets made of satin...they were sinfully comfortable. |
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Post by necroshine on Nov 27, 2005 18:51:20 GMT -5
So you have two angels telling someone to go against what god has said. But one was ok and the other one wasn’t.
God shouldn’t have to test anyone. He knows your hart doesn’t he? This man was following god to begin with. Despite the details of the story you have two different outcomes. How could either of the people begin to know which one is the bad angel and which is the good one. Not to mention to whole story of adam and eve being innocent and could not know they was doing something bad.
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Post by vertigo on Nov 27, 2005 19:52:58 GMT -5
Satan is a fairy tale to scare you into subservience. The biggest tell-tale is this line: "Satan's biggest trick was convincing the world he doesn't exist." Christians' greatest folly is believing that. The trick is on them. Christianity motivates by fear and guilt. Sounds pretty much like a cult, doesn't it?
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The Reservoir Dog
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I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just gonna ask where they're goin' and meet up with em' later.
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Post by The Reservoir Dog on Dec 1, 2005 14:45:20 GMT -5
Satan is a fairy tale to scare you into subservience. The biggest tell-tale is this line: "Satan's biggest trick was convincing the world he doesn't exist." Christians' greatest folly is believing that. The trick is on them. Christianity motivates by fear and guilt. Sounds pretty much like a cult, doesn't it? not to mention all of the chanting |
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Post by Dragon*of*Heaven on Dec 3, 2005 22:30:38 GMT -5
And of course lets not forget the bowing and the scrapeing. Oh and lets also not mention the fact that they conterdict their own laws. "thou shalt not worship Idols.
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Post by necroshine on Dec 4, 2005 6:06:03 GMT -5
its funny that christans come here to convert people but when you post a clear contradiction none want to comment on it. and they say the bible is gods word and it is perfect.
my ass
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Post by vertigo on Dec 4, 2005 16:30:24 GMT -5
Why does the minister stand on a raised platform in stately robes and behind that wooden thing?
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Post by Pilgrim on Dec 9, 2005 16:58:03 GMT -5
"angel" in Gen.22:11 means messenger of God which in context means the Lord himself. The testing was not for the benefit of God. It was for the benefit of Abraham and Isaac. Adam and Eve were not confronted by an angel from the Lord. Big difference. Abraham obeyed God both times. If you know the Lord God, you will know whether they are talking to God or the devil. Adam and Eve knew they were not talking to God and neither did the devil introduce himself as an angel of the Lord. So you have two angels telling someone to go against what god has said. But one was ok and the other one wasn’t. God shouldn’t have to test anyone. He knows your hart doesn’t he? This man was following god to begin with. Despite the details of the story you have two different outcomes. How could either of the people begin to know which one is the bad angel and which is the good one. Not to mention to whole story of adam and eve being innocent and could not know they was doing something bad. |
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Post by vertigo on Dec 9, 2005 17:06:43 GMT -5
Trust in the supernatural is irresponsible.
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Post by Pilgrim on Dec 10, 2005 15:08:51 GMT -5
Trust in the supernatural is irresponsible. Trusting in the supernatural is but not trusting the supernatural God of the Bible. |
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Post by vertigo on Dec 10, 2005 15:30:24 GMT -5
Pilgrim, please learn logic. Look it up, read about it. Only return when you understand by yourself why this statement above is contradictory. For your own sake (if you care), do that.
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Post by Dragon*of*Heaven on Dec 12, 2005 11:55:42 GMT -5
Ok Pilgrim when God suposidly said kill your son jacob and he went to do it. On his mind was the thought of kill the boy. In christianity even an evil thought is a Sin. Last time I looked murder was considered evil.
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