KEvb0
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Post by KEvb0 on Dec 3, 2003 12:59:33 GMT -5
Ok I've read some stuff on this, nothing terribly serious just little theories
1. Rousseau wrote an essay on the advance of society coinciding with the advance of science. As we discover more, we become more enlightened about the world around us and more aware.
2. At our current position we seem to be striving for better communication and connectivity. With the internet, telephones, cellphones, camera phones, we are becoming close to being one entity which shares thoughts with ease.
3. Now, can science and society advance to the point that we are so connected that we function as one mind? Think waaaaaaaay into the future, when technology and biology have become blended to a greater degree. When you can look at an object, have you brain process seeing it, make a thought, and then project it through some sort of implant in your head to anyone and everyone else.
Why do we feel the need to be so connected to others? Are we trying to get closer to omnipotence? Maybe trying to become God because one does not exist?
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zoul
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Post by zoul on Dec 3, 2003 21:15:23 GMT -5
hmmmm good point i think humans have this need to bend others to their will. since the caves of lascol in france some 35000 years ago cave paintings was one of the first communication systems. When people can communicate with other people they can influance them and there fore change their ways of doing things behavoir or even thoughts. human synapsis fires in milli seconds thousand of times through out the brain giving us the ability to talk at maybe 120 to 150 words a minute with 6.5 billion people on the planet all trying to influance each other. who knows what the future will bring? but you can bet communication will be as big as ever.
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Post by ck on Jan 18, 2004 22:16:14 GMT -5
I guess the need to be connected to Others is just well i guess instinct i guess...
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Post by Griffey on Jan 19, 2004 0:51:30 GMT -5
Aaaahh...it's the Borg...
I suppose humans have this innate need to communicate with others because we are a social species. We seek out friends, people to talk to, socialize with, and whatnot. This is probably to function as a survival instinct, you're right, ck. Warn others about danger or where there's water or something. While this is no longer a "live or die" issue, we still want to tell others things and send advice-- just look at all those dumb "this happened to so-and-so" chain letters flying around. Humans like talking, and yes, communication will probably keep advancing.
However, I don't think this innate need to communicate and become closer to other minds is out of some want to become "godlike." Although I'm not exactly a sociologist (yet ;D) so maybe you're right. Humans do seem to like power...maybe this is just another way to attain it.
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Post by Hilly on Jan 19, 2004 10:08:14 GMT -5
Now, can science and society advance to the point that we are so connected that we function as one mind? Think waaaaaaaay into the future, when technology and biology have become blended to a greater degree. When you can look at an object, have you brain process seeing it, make a thought, and then project it through some sort of implant in your head to anyone and everyone else. I agree, sounds like the Borg.  KEvbo This sounds sorta scary,  the idea of mixing science/technology with biology, at least where the brain (thoughts) and implants are concerned. Of course there are those who believe that we can already or will eventually learn how to communicate with others through ESP as we develop the full potential of our brains. I would love to be around to see what the future holds. |
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Post by ck on Jan 19, 2004 10:27:09 GMT -5
well they say this need to bond is gonna kill us all if a super virus ever starts cause it will just spread around the whole world in a matter of days
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Post by droskey on Jan 19, 2004 10:57:26 GMT -5
KEvb0
I think that there might be an evolutionary answer to this. Humans ability to work together and to design complex social structures is the main reason that we have become so successful as a species. Social structures will not hold together without "connectivity" and the ability to share information.
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Post by Supremor on Jan 20, 2004 13:28:03 GMT -5
from zoul:
I think that although it is true to say, that people want to be able to communicate with each other all the time, I don't think that this will grow in intimacy, as it were. We may have the internet, the email, TV ect, but has it brought us closer together?
I see people being able to talk to each other whenever they want to, but the subjects they talk about are usually very mundane.
So no, I don't think humans will ever be similar to the borg, we just want to be sociable about something, it doesn't matter what
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Post by dragonfly on Jan 24, 2004 18:49:11 GMT -5
I saw a seminar on this recently where by the means of Nano technology the human brain can be altered to recieve messages (picture dialling up a friend with your mind implant and not a phone!)....my brain went in to over-drive at the potential for disaster and abuse.Its bad enough having the phone ring let alone an intrusive mind entry!(certainly the concept of harrasment could reach an entirely new level!)
The potential for Governments to abuse this technology is obvious. Strangely at the seminar women ,despite being viewed traditionally as an over communicator seemed very cautious if not down right horrified BUT most of the men seemed really excited and gave the impression they could not wait for the invasive technology .One guy was just over the moon with ideas about how this could add an exciting dimension to computer games!
I'm scared that while we won't become God-like we could lose our humaness!
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Acriku
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Post by Acriku on Feb 6, 2004 23:32:46 GMT -5
With great power comes great responsibility. Stan Lee's quote is applicable in so many areas, and nanotechnology is one of them. I think that our level of technology is improving and revolutionizing much faster than our legislation and social conscience can absorb it all in.
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Post by AtheistMessiah on Feb 7, 2004 21:30:50 GMT -5
If you look at it one way, this has already started to happen, but it doesn't really mean anything other than that you can look at human civilization in that way, the more we communicate. You can think of this giant human organism thinking for itself and gaining knowledge, but this doesn't really mean anything in and of itself, besides allowing us to model human culture and understand ourselves better.
We're still humans regardless if we become half-cybernetic or not. I personally look forward to the capabilities electronic interfaces can offer. (It will probably be more like having a virtual arm, with enough safeguards so that it's only an interface and you cannot 'hack' into people's minds (the worst you could do is send them spam).
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the idea of mixing science/technology with biology, at least where the brain (thoughts) and implants are concerned. Of course there are those who believe that we can already or will eventually learn how to communicate with others through ESP as we develop the full potential of our brains. I would love to be around to see what the future holds.