b33
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Post by b33 on Jun 30, 2005 23:33:28 GMT -5
Let me demonstrate somthing to you really quick, And let me steal your complete focus for a quick moment,
Id like to talk to each and everyone of you, belivers, and non belivers, so first off I want you to enter a state of mind that will make you understand.
What ever your past path may be, and what ever it was that got you here to read this, I want you to wonder that what ever it was in the past it is now you are reading this, I mean this very seriously and im only here writeing this beacuse I belive im speaking to a mainly athiest group, but let my statements come and focus with me.
Think of your brain, but think of it in a 3rd person, we all got it and it interperts everything we do, sound, vision, tast, touch, emotion, all of these i want you to keep with you freshly in your mind, now focus that you can intake and outtake actions, in a way that you can control yourself,
What i mean is, your brain power is the root, and its how your reading this now, its whats making you wonder about what im writeing right now, and making you think what ever it is your thinking, I want you to relise that you can control everything you do, and when i say that i mean you can start living happy even if you already are happy, but im trying to open your 3rd eye,
Think of all the oppiosites there are here,
We have are human form, and for the human form we have FOOD, many varitys of it, designed for the body, its a energy source greater then anything, think of a computer kinda but relise that the brain is more complex then it,
My main point im trying to make you see is that lifes an illusion, what you see, is only being seen because of your brain, but beyond that your seeing what you are seeing, for a reason,
The problem that it is hard to relise we are works of GOD, which is plan as day to KNOW, and see, but of course at the exact same time its EXTREAMLY hard to see,
Think for a moment, and relise this is true, We are created in the likeness of are GOD, and we have the exact same potential that GOD has, he has created us the world and everything,
The problem though that we are made in his image, is we have this HUDGE base that has been given to us, but while it was given to us, it was also given to us to mold and shape how we become, and work, your physical eyes, yes your two that are reading this right now, are seeing different levels of intake, GOOD and EVIL mainly, and that is the problem with us being in the likeness of a GOD, we are able to SEE and view it, but if one has no control of his thoughts and actions, he can be swept away by EVIL,
Every secont is the exact same, its time to live, and view life, How long till you discover your true meaning to life?
Read the Bible, I owe everything to it, it is the key, it is the root, and it can spirtualy cleanse and change you, I SWEAR TO YOU THE BIBLE IS YOUR ANSWER.
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Post by Enuffalready on Jul 1, 2005 3:06:27 GMT -5
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Post by vertigo on Jul 1, 2005 7:26:03 GMT -5
b33 tells us to accept that what we see is an illusion, and then to read the Bible. This is putting the cart before the horse. Surely you should read the Bible in light of what you know and then decide if you think it is true or not, not discard all you know and then blindly follow the pastor's/church's version.
You should read the Bible critically and decide if you accept it as true prophecy.
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Post by Griffey on Jul 1, 2005 11:09:58 GMT -5
I'm not sure how realizing my brain is responsible for all my mental actions is proof of God. I'm also not sure exactly what your argument here is, either, beyond "read the Bible, it's good for you," which isn't terribly convincing. At any rate, I don't need the meaning of my life handed to me by old dead men.
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Post by Enuffalready on Jul 1, 2005 14:37:51 GMT -5
I tried to think of a way to be more eloquent than my last post, but alas I shall have to stick with  as my final reply. |
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twobirds
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Religion is a con.
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Post by twobirds on Jul 1, 2005 16:00:34 GMT -5
So if I get this right I have to look inside myself to find your god? The more I look into myself the more I see....me,not god or gods. When you find god please bring him,her, it to my house so we can have alittle talk. And none of this invisable crap either......Something my "brain" sees........
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Post by solidsquid on Jul 1, 2005 21:57:59 GMT -5
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Post by necroshine on Jul 4, 2005 6:58:33 GMT -5
I’m almost always at that state. But I can not make myself understand what you are saying you have to word it in ssuch a way that I will know what point you are trying to make. And so far you have not done that you are beating around the bush abut the subject.
If I’m already happy then how can I start to be happy? By following a god that tells me to hate people that are not like me? I don’t think so. I would rather tell a gay person that I think what they need to live their lives in a what they makes them happy instead of telling them that they are going to hell and that they need to change their lives.
I do think the sun gives off more energy than my cup of coffee I have here. I don’t think food is the greatest form of energy there is.
That is what you think. That does not make it a fact. Nor do I think we are put here to hate each other by your god.
Which god? The god that looks that a Chinese man, or the god that looks like a white guy, I know god looks like a black guy. Or does god have the eyes of a Chinese man and the nose of a black man and the lips of a white guy. I would chalk that up to evolution not god.
Which bible? Which version of the bible is the correct one? you say a lot of words but say noting to make a point. Other than we are made by god so start to be happy. I’m happy with out a god. I don’t need to be saved and I’m not asking for it. if I was born into sin that is not my fault and I’m not going to ask for forgiveness from a god that tells me that I deserve hell. god is supposed to be all loving that doesn’t sound like a action of an all loving god. That is like saying that your children doesn’t deserve your loving. That is not correct. And I would like for you to think about things and try to make a point in the future and not talk in riddles.
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Post by necroshine on Jul 4, 2005 6:59:03 GMT -5
oh and i forgot |
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Post by Mistwalker on Jul 6, 2005 2:11:18 GMT -5
You start out by saying " Let me demonstrate somthing to you really quick", and then completely and utterly fail to demonstrate anything whatsoever.
First, you tell me I have a brain, that allows me to interpret my environment, as well as think abstractly.
Then you say life is an illusion, and then you say we are made by god (and you say this is plain as day to see as well as extremely difficult to see), and that we should read the bible and be christians.
So what the hell does us having a brain have to do with god, and us being god's creations?
You say life is an illusion, meaning everything we know is false, and then you say the bible is true. Contradiction here.
Another contradiction is that it is both easy to see and hard to see that we are works of god. It's one or the other there.
And with all of that, you completely failed to show that anything you said was correct, or make any compelling arguments whatsoever.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say so little with so many words.
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Post by Enuffalready on Jul 6, 2005 2:14:50 GMT -5
You start out by saying " Let me demonstrate somthing to you really quick", and then completely and utterly fail to demonstrate anything whatsoever. Not to mention failing in the "really quick" department. |
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Post by pieisgood on Jul 8, 2005 10:51:15 GMT -5
Id like to talk to each and everyone of you, belivers, and non belivers, so first off I want you to enter a state of mind that will make you understand. I hope I'm always there. Anyhoo... Think of your brain, but think of it in a 3rd person, we all got it and it interperts everything we do, sound, vision, tast, touch, emotion, all of these i want you to keep with you freshly in your mind, now focus that you can intake and outtake actions, in a way that you can control yourself, What i mean is, your brain power is the root, and its how your reading this now, its whats making you wonder about what im writeing right now, and making you think what ever it is your thinking, Agreed. My brain is controlling everything I do. I want you to relise that you can control everything you do, and when i say that i mean you can start living happy even if you already are happy, but im trying to open your 3rd eye, I'm always open to the possibility that I'm missing something; however, until you've shown me that I have a 3rd eye, I'm Third Eye Blind. I'm not about to believe in a third eye because you said so. Ya need proof around here. Think of all the oppiosites there are here, We have are human form, and for the human form we have FOOD, many varitys of it, designed for the body, its a energy source greater then anything, think of a computer kinda but relise that the brain is more complex then it, You need to read up on some basic evolution. Most animals and food are symbiotic... the animals get food and spread the seeds. Evolution loves symbiosis. My main point im trying to make you see is that lifes an illusion, what you see, is only being seen because of your brain, but beyond that your seeing what you are seeing, for a reason, Hold on. You're bringing existentialism into this now? Fine. Prove that what we see is being tailored by a greater being and I will concede. But you still need proofThe problem that it is hard to relise we are works of GOD, which is plan as day to KNOW, and see, but of course at the exact same time its EXTREAMLY hard to see, uhh... how did you jump to God? I see no connection between this and the rest of the post. Think for a moment, and relise this is true, We are created in the likeness of are GOD, and we have the exact same potential that GOD has, he has created us the world and everything, The more I think, the more I disbelieve. Funny thing is, 99% of people who tell you to think about something have never tried it themselves. The problem though that we are made in his image, is we have this HUDGE base that has been given to us, but while it was given to us, it was also given to us to mold and shape how we become, and work, your physical eyes, yes your two that are reading this right now, are seeing different levels of intake, GOOD and EVIL mainly, I have evilvision? I feel like some kinda superhero. and that is the problem with us being in the likeness of a GOD, we are able to SEE and view it, but if one has no control of his thoughts and actions, he can be swept away by EVIL, Mental power keeps you away from evil? If we have the same definitions of evil, I couldn't agree more. I still don't see your point, though. Every secont is the exact same, its time to live, and view life, How long till you discover your true meaning to life? Probably quite awhile; I really don't know. I have a great life right now, I have thought about views on life, I have rejected the God theory. It's sad to me that people accept a God and consider that their purpose in life. At least I can say I'm not a minion to a greater being. I have a life. I love it. Read the Bible, I owe everything to it, it is the key, it is the root, and it can spirtualy cleanse and change you, I SWEAR TO YOU THE BIBLE IS YOUR ANSWER. I'd be happy to talk about the bible with you or anybody else on this board. Give me a passage and I will discuss. |
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b33
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Post by b33 on Jul 10, 2005 0:09:40 GMT -5
The 3rd eye I belive is not fully open untill we are with GOD and we are saved, but the 3rd eye can be with you now, beacuse we will be the exact same but changed in the spirt, you can clense your spirt, but it takes more then anything the eye can see, it takes FAITH, and you will not just have your eye opened, it will slowly open, and it can slowly close, but I promise you its there, and its more then what my words can describe its more of a Spirtual Clensing, that is beyond words, and it guilds your actions based on how open ur eye is,
Its true you can think of millions of things and one wrong one that sounds great can blind your eye, altho it may appear to be right and the answer, but alot of life now is an illision, but stick with me though this, you know the illiusion that you can hold in front of your face, then you view it and see stairs going UP, but once you sit there and stare at it, you can see the stairs going DOWN, its all how you look at it, BUT some of the time you can not see what it is that is really ment for you to see and understand, so I mean that what you think may be RIGHT, can actually be wrong, but you wont ever know it its decitfull, but dont take these words and think that your living a wrong life, im just saying you can be saved BY JESUS and you can get a blessing, beyond your eyes vision, but in a vision that will set your illiusion to the other side.
Perhaps some of you have grasped and seen bits and other pieces of the other side of the illiusion but Its not my word, its GODS WORD and will, that you can at any point go to him, its weither or not you fell it, and relise it, unlock your minds, and PRAISE GOD FOR HE IS THE GLORY.
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Post by necroshine on Jul 10, 2005 7:21:24 GMT -5
Can you please state what you are saying in English? I see the words but your insistence on talking about a third eye which we DON”T have is strange. We do have a third eye lid but I doubt that is your point. Please quit talking in riddles if you have something to say, say it. you say that our third eye is not open and will not be opened till we accept god. But to accept god we have to open our third eye. Do you see the contradiction in that? of course you don’t you believe in a god with out proof. So what you are saying make sense to you, but not me. I reject your clam. And I want something more than you telling me to open an eye that I don’t have.
Why should I praise god? Do you think god is great? I don’t.
Tell me why I’m living the wrong life. I want to know why I’m in error. I have not killed anyone in gods name and I don’t take money from the poor. I don’t give false hope to better myself. and I don’t tell people that they are living wrong.
What about life is an illusion? What makes you think that computer in front of you is not there?
I will give you one thing, I haven’t seen anyone say so little with so many words in a while. Your skill at missing the point had to be practiced because people are not born with that kind of ability.
Like I said if you have something to say, say it.
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Post by pieisgood on Jul 10, 2005 10:42:37 GMT -5
Oh, none of us are contesting what you believe. I think we all understand what you're trying to say. We're just asking for proof as to what you believe and why you believe it.
If I told you that there was an invisible, intangible frog sitting on your shoulder right now, although you can't disprove it, you would still ask me why I thought that. Same goes for you- If you want us to believe something we can't disprove, you still need to prove it.
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