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Post by LyricalReckoner on Sept 28, 2004 17:13:14 GMT -5
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Post by AuntieSocial on Sept 28, 2004 18:22:44 GMT -5
Good to see you back on the board again, LyricalReckoner!
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Post by Theodore Doxford on Oct 2, 2004 16:13:15 GMT -5
Well if you read the bible he just wants 144,000 men Who have not been tainted by those women ;D
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Post by Theodore Doxford on Oct 2, 2004 16:20:24 GMT -5
Just read your link ....and the USA makes me weep sometimes...gawd elp us ; ;D ;D
Living in the UK we do not realise how much the USA is drifting towards being a theocracy.
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Post by Superhappyjen on Oct 3, 2004 7:59:03 GMT -5
Silly americans. Trix are for kids.
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Post by slavsoul on Oct 3, 2004 23:20:41 GMT -5
Reverend Falwell has told us whom God wants. God spoke to the holy man and informed him that George W. Bush would win the election by a landside. The beams emanating from his confident smile struck me to the very marrow. Prepare yourselves, o ye faithful, for George W. Bush, the anointed of Yahweh, shall continue to lead us to Armageddon.
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Post by vertigo on Oct 4, 2004 15:45:18 GMT -5
George W. Bush is no more stupid than the people that revere him...
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Post by gear on Oct 5, 2004 0:44:19 GMT -5
George W. Bush is no more stupid than the people that revere him... takes an idiot to know one.
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Post by EvenThen on Oct 21, 2004 11:38:21 GMT -5
takes an idiot to know one. How spiteful. Not a good representation of Christ's love. I most definitely don't revere George Bush, and I pity those who do. But I do respect him for the work he has done for our country. It takes balls to do something that is not popular, and to stick to it. George Bush has not faltered in his job, and I believe he did that right thing. John Kerry succumbs to popular opinion, cannot make up his mind, and would lead this country no where. He would make it too easy for terrorists to further terrorize this country. Is that the kind of president we want?
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Post by Theodore Doxford on Oct 21, 2004 13:02:39 GMT -5
How spiteful. Not a good representation of Christ's love. I most definitely don't revere George Bush, and I pity those who do. But I do respect him for the work he has done for our country. It takes balls to do something that is not popular, and to stick to it. George Bush has not faltered in his job, and I believe he did that right thing. John Kerry succumbs to popular opinion, cannot make up his mind, and would lead this country no where. He would make it too easy for terrorists to further terrorize this country. Is that the kind of president we want? So what you want Even Then is a puppet of the religious right... I might of guessed that you would not want to lose your grip on power in the USA....
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Post by EvenThen on Oct 21, 2004 14:36:30 GMT -5
Grip of power? What sort of underhanded comment is that? If there something you'd like to say? I find it rather humorous that when you don't have anything intellegient to say, you resort to backhanded comments that serve rather to infuriate than to encourage consideration. Whatever.
I respect George Bush and trust him in defending our country. John Kerry can't defend America, much less his own opinions, which he can't seem to keep track of.
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Post by droskey on Oct 21, 2004 14:55:49 GMT -5
EvenThen The problem with comparing a senator's performance with a president is one of comparing apples with oranges. Kerry is a senator and therefore has to compromise and change his position. He proabaly has to do it quite a lot to get measures passed that he wants. Also, congress is fond of putting "riders" on bills that have little or nothing to do with the major content of the bill. Therefore, senators and congressmen will often vote against a bill that they support because of the riders that are appended after the original bill is drafted. I'm not an expert on how this process works but I do know that this happens frequently. So I think that the flip flopping charge is ill founded. He also has to fairly represent the relatively small constituency that elected him, hence his fairly liberal voting record. So the charge of him being ultra liber is ill founded. I think Kerry could afford to be much less liberal once he was in the White House. And he could afford to be politically.
Now, I agree, that Bush is very resolute. However, his resolutness is based on oversimplified assesments, in my opinion. I think that his administration has something that they want to do and they tend to rush in and do it. His major blunder is Iraq. He should not have gone in. Had he not gone into Iraq, I think he would be in a much stronger position. However, I believe that he made a very poor assessment of the situation and shot from the hip. It was a very bad decision and a president should show better judgement. It's fine to be resolute. But you should make sure that you are correct when you cement your resolve. Bush doesn't spend the time to do that.
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Post by EvenThen on Oct 21, 2004 15:13:32 GMT -5
I totally disagree. The majority of his "flip-flop" statements and opinions happened while he was running for president.
I don't believe they rushed in at all. They just didn't wait for the world do give the ok. That would have taken forever, especially if France had anything to say about it.
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Post by droskey on Oct 21, 2004 15:42:11 GMT -5
EvenThen I think that the administration had already made up its mind in September the year before that it was going into Iraq. They just had to sell it to the American people and to Congress. They sold us on Iraq as an imminent and gather thread, it was not. They sold us on the allegation that Iraq had WMD, it did not. They tried to tie Iraq with Sept. 11. It had nothing to do with Sept. 11. The bottom line is that the administration wanted to go into Iraq regardless of whether or not it was a threat. They went into Iraq before we were done in Afghanistan. They went into Iraq before we had gotten bin Laden. They went into Iraq on false pretenses. In other words, they rushed into Iraq.
EvenThen For instance? I don't think that he is accused of flip flopping so much during the campaign. Bush zeroed in on his vote to allow the use of force in Iraq and then his vote against the $86 billion as an example on flip-flopping. That was before the campaign. Bush is talking about Kerry's overall record, not just about what he has said in the last six months.
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Post by EvenThen on Oct 21, 2004 17:38:53 GMT -5
I think we also need to take into account that we are not privy to 80% of the information the president got/gets. We don't hear everything, and what we do is skewed by our biased left wing media.
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