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Post by Yaw on Feb 3, 2004 0:03:43 GMT -5
But Kalena has been contributing fairly well, and hasn't done anything particularly suspicious. Besides which, we've already established that there are definitely scum among the active players. You're being pressured because of the suspicion that you're one of those, which has nothing to do with Kalena whatsoever.
Please address the issues pertaining to your own actions. If you aren't scum, why are you trying to pass the blame off on other people?
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Post by Yaw on Feb 3, 2004 0:08:56 GMT -5
Fair enough. I'll post the relevant quotes.
pieisgood
That's from post 189. Then Griffey follows up in post 194 with the following.
Griffey
That's the prime basis, as far as I could tell going back through the posts quickly. I'm open to being corrected if others found supplemental material.
Oh, and there's the matter of your suspicious first defense.
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muddog
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Post by muddog on Feb 3, 2004 0:10:56 GMT -5
Thesis: "If you aren't scum, why are you trying to pass the blame off on other people"
Answer: "As it has been shown before, mistakes can be made and innocents can be lynced. I don't want the blame on me because I am an innocent and I dont want to be lynced."
No offence Yaw, but thats not exactly a college level thesis, or even a high school one. Mabey you could pass that one off in 5th grade, but they don't have esseys using thesises there. If you need a specific answer, ask a specific question.
About Kalena, sorry, but I feel the need to check out everyone. I am a cautious person by nature.
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muddog
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Post by muddog on Feb 3, 2004 0:11:43 GMT -5
I put in the last post before I read you last one. Il adress that in a second
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muddog
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Post by muddog on Feb 3, 2004 0:23:43 GMT -5
I am feeling much better now, and should be able to post every day (I hope). Thank you to all those who wished me to get better soon, though I fear the effort may be wasted by the number of people ready to lynch me. Welcome to the game Kalena! With everyone here hopefully the game will move faster. I truely cannot think of anything to say in defence of myself right now, but I AM NOT SCUM. I think we should let the replacement talk for a while, and check her out before we have a lynch. That is all for today. From the bottem up, my first defence. By that time, we didn't have many posts from Kalena. As I said in a previous post, I am a cautious person, and I want everyone to be checked out before a lynch is made. Sorry that that sounded scummy, but what exactly Should I have posted in that situation. Griffys quote talked about side talks, similar to the one we are having right now, and have been occuring throughout the thread. I belive that pie said something to that effect soon after. Finaly, Pies Quote. He talks about me hopping on a bandwagon (i think), but not talking too much. If I am not mistaken, I adressed the not talking very much in multiple previous posts ( I was sick, and then I was buisy catching up at school for missing days). And for the bandwagon, you need to have bandwagons in this game. That is how you get people to talk (like right now). If you want anything else cleared up, post. I might not reply tonight, but it is possible.
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Post by Yaw on Feb 3, 2004 0:30:28 GMT -5
Well, I checked this bandwagon out. I remain unconvinced.
On the other hand, while going back through the posts to find out why the first few votes went on muddog I found that pieisgood was speculating on the doc throughout the whole day -- I just didn't notice until the second or third time around. So that seems to be a consistent thing. For previous reasons, I'm going back.
Unvote: muddog, Vote: pieisgood
That's four. Let's give him a last chance before considering that lynching vote.
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Post by AuntieSocial on Feb 3, 2004 7:36:51 GMT -5
muddog post #90
pieisgood post #97
I know that pieisgood has explained the infamous post #97, but I can’t help but go back there because it seems clear to me (in this exchange) that muddog and pie are not working in concert and that pie was gunning for someone he knew was innocent. I see muddog’s removal of his vote to be reasonable under the circumstances. If he was scum, he would have known that ck is innocent and would have wanted a lynch. His vote removal and the reason cited leads me to believe him …
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Kalena
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Post by Kalena on Feb 3, 2004 9:41:10 GMT -5
BTW, Maddog does sound cooler than Muddog, mabey I will change my name to it after the game is done. Thanks Kalena. Lol! You're welcome! I'm glad you don't think I'm stupid from my mistake. Well, Muddog, the only thing you can check me out on is the posts I have made so far. We have a limited amount of time, which means that there isn't going to be many posts to go on for me. You just have to analyze the posts I have made so far to see if there is anything scummy. Also I don't think you're scum Muddog. What AuntieSocial pointed out about your unvote on ck makes a lot of sense. Of course, I'll eat my words if you truly are scum. ;D
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Post by pieisgood on Feb 3, 2004 19:01:12 GMT -5
I have adressed all points made here to the best of my ability. If you don't take my explination, I am not one to go back on what I said. I will adress any finer points you want, but I will soon be dead I have a very strong feeling. Muddog only showed that he existed, we had already determined.
As to why muddog's explination of "Innocents make mistakes too" remains believeable while mine is a scummy bandwagon, I'm yet to see.
lemme know what you want me to explain more. SHould somebody toss a last vote on, my last words: Please, don't make the same mistake again of an innocent being lynched for being on the wrong bandwagon. Also, pay attention to what I've said, some of my strategy will hopefully be more evident, and that might provide some help to the surviving town. Good luck to them.
-Pie
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muddog
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Post by muddog on Feb 3, 2004 20:25:16 GMT -5
I am starting to get suspicious of pieisgood. I have reasons, based on bandwagons. I could go into detail, but auntiesocial has summed them up nicely here. I'm still looking at pieisgood ... here's why... Remember back on day 1? Well, at the beginning, we had some "random" votes and FOS's. Yaw and pieisgood cast the first random votes as follows: Yaw: ck (random vote) pieisgood: muddog (random vote) They both changed their random votes mid-day (to try and draw the absentees in): Yaw: jacopo (random) pieisgood: kaeis (random) The first non-random vote was by ck, for pieisgood, which was followed closely by Arutha (and that is still suspicious to me, by the way) At the point when the bandwagon was started against ck, pieisgood cast the first stone. He was also the one who pointed out that ck and Arutha were voting (and riding a bandwagon) together. But no one else joined on the wagon with ck & Arutha. MANY people joined pieisgood on his wagon though ... the wagon that was gunning for the blood-spilling of an innocent citizen. No one but the scum would know that ck is innocent ... we bought into pieisgood's story though. In post #97, when muddog removed his vote from ck, it appears that pieisgood is trying to pressure him into reapplying his vote. If you recall, we were short some players and were deciding whether to continue in their absence. Removing the vote was a reasonable precaution against one of the absentees being scum & showing up and casting the damning stone ... but pieisgood didn't want muddog to remove his vote. There is then the business of trying to out our good doctor. Why would a citizen want to bring our doctor to the scum's attention? There is also what I perceive as insight into the number of scum roaming our streets. Yes, it is plausible that he read the plural of catholic to mean there were two catholics plus an inquisitor ... or ... is he slipping up and possibly giving away information he fellows in scumdom wouldn't want him to pass on? Now, we have Day 2 ... We start the day with a lot of FOSing, which I imagine is normal. The first person to be voted for is muddog, by Griffey. Griffey’s reason? Pieisgood has some good points that make muddog look scummy. Pieisgood adds his vote to muddog and we have the start of a bandwagon again … spear-headed by pieisgood … I agree that muddog’s defense isn’t much of a defense at all, but I can’t over look the instigation behind all of this … I am very leery of casting the final lynching vote on pieisgood, because if he is a townie, then there would be large amouts of suspicion placed on me. However, I will FOS: pieisgood. Perhaps pie is being an overzelious citizin truely wanting to get catholics, and going at it the hard way. Probably not, but I am not 100% sure right now. More evidence, and I might cast a vote.
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Post by nonny on Feb 3, 2004 23:20:09 GMT -5
muddog: (2) hilly,pieisgood pieisgood: (4) Auntiesocial, kalena, Griffey, Yaw Not voting: (2) muddog, Arutha
One more to lynch pieisgood.
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Post by Yaw on Feb 4, 2004 0:23:19 GMT -5
Prompted by muddog's post, I just want to make the comment that the deadline is tomorrow. We have to make a decision here fairly quickly. Either vote to lynch pieisgood, try to start another bandwagon elsewhere if you think this is the wrong lynch, or consciously vote for a "no lynch". Let's make the decision ourselves, rather than having the deadline make it for us.
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Post by Arutha on Feb 4, 2004 2:11:18 GMT -5
Yay i get some time online today. After reading through peoples posts and reading auntie (a innocent person with nothing to hide so she seems to be the best person to get hints off)
I think i can agree that there is enough evedence to vote for Pieisgood
vote Pieisgood
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Post by Arutha on Feb 4, 2004 2:12:28 GMT -5
After reading auntie point that post out i should say.
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Post by pieisgood on Feb 4, 2004 11:35:57 GMT -5
sooo... I'm dead. Mistake, town, but just to be sure I will wait for a death post until Nonbeliever confirms it.
-pie
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