A STRAIGHT FORWARD MSG FOR ATHEISTS

[SimpleObservation]

Good luck, because you'll need it.

I have expended all the patience I have for unbelievers... and for those who are still "searching", my prayers still go up to the Living God for you.

But for the rest of you, who say there is no God, and taunt and ridicule those who do believe in God... I laugh at you and rejoice in your coming destruction.

Because, as you already know, there is a God, and his judgement will be upon you.

Now, I know, it's only by the grace of God I am saved, and will see Him in glory, but my human side still feels the frustration and disgust with those of you who take God's invitation of love and peace and toss it away like garbage.

The irony is, you unbelievers DO KNOW God exists. Instead you choose to close your eyes, simply making you part of all that is evil.

There are two sides, good and evil, light and dark... and those who don't believe (you know who you are) belong to the evil... belong to the dark.

And I rejoice, because you will be destroyed.

Laugh it up unbelievers, your destruction is at hand.

[The Reservoir Dog]

Wow are you so hard up for some sort of an argument or reaction that you have to use such ridiculously obvious crap as "your destruction is at hand". I feel sorry for you if for no other reason than you feel you have to condemn us to make us afraid so we will "believe" whatever the fuck that means. Also how would I know that something exists that there is no logical proof for? Be prepared to have the word logic used an awful lot because it is the proof that we have about the non-existence of any deity. By the way welcome to the forum.

P.S. Why do you feel it necessary to condemn us in the name of your (as the bible refers to him) "compassionate" god? If he is so loving and compassionate why would he condemn us as well as what gives you the right to make judgments on others?

[vertigo]

I am proud to be your target of condemnation, I take it as a compliment.

[GodsAreUs]

Good luck yourself, SimpleObservation.

Thankfully, I am indifferent to your condemnation.

[solidsquid]

simpleobservation said:

But for the rest of you, who say there is no God, and taunt and ridicule those who do believe in God... I laugh at you and rejoice in your coming destruction.

To my knowledge, I've never "taunted or ridiculed" anyone simply for believing in god. If my behavior were to be consistent with this, I would need to taunt and ridicule most of my family and friends. I have no reason to hold ill will towards someone simply because they believe in something I do not. I think you may be generalizing the actions of a some to the entire group - that would be an inaccurate conclusion.

Because, as you already know, there is a God, and his judgement will be upon you.

No. I was told this for many years. However, looking into the matter there is lacking proof positive that such a deity as commonly thought of and described by the Abrahamic religions exists. There is a difference between rejecting something we know to be certain and accepting the null hypothesis due to lack of evidence to accept the alternative as an actuality.

Now, I know, it's only by the grace of God I am saved, and will see Him in glory, but my human side still feels the frustration and disgust with those of you who take God's invitation of love and peace and toss it away like garbage.

I'm sorry you harbor such resentment. Have you thought of seeking therapy to help with this anger?

The irony is, you unbelievers DO KNOW God exists. Instead you choose to close your eyes, simply making you part of all that is evil.

I addressed this assertion above.

There are two sides, good and evil, light and dark... and those who don't believe (you know who you are) belong to the evil... belong to the dark.

First, the idea of absolute morality is lacking in complete solid logical and empirical justification. Secondly, the dichotomy idea of reality isn't at all an accurate view - it is very rare that in life we see two static opposites in such the context as you use it. It is more often we see a continuum - dynamic and ever-changing.

And I rejoice, because you will be destroyed.

Laugh it up unbelievers, your destruction is at hand.

Again, I think you might want to look into some anger-management sessions to aid you. That level of distress is certainly not good for you vascular or endocrine system.

[Dragon*of*Heaven]

Welcome simpleobservation

My you have chosen an interesting foot to begin with. What I'm saying Child is that you are taunting and ridiculing us. I would suggest turning the looking glass back upon your self. Or are you too afraid of what you would see in your reflection?

Now, I know, it's only by the grace of God I am saved, and will see Him in glory, but my human side still feels the frustration and disgust with those of you who take God's invitation of love and peace and toss it away like garbage.

Now this doesn't sound like good Christian behavior, you may want to check your bible I think that it states some where in there that you should not judge lest ye be judged. I can definitely tell you that your attitude will not only not get you into heaven but I'm afraid your place would be worse than mine.

And I rejoice, because you will be destroyed.

Once again my cherub you really need to watch your self lest your devil get you. Perhaps go see a priest or minister or something.

my prayers still go up to the Living God for you.

Normally I would say thank you because it cant hurt. However even I don't want the prayers of a hypocrite

[necroshine]

Simple observation I’m sad for you.
How old are you 12, or 15? You sound so angry. For someone to know the love of a god you have a lot of hate. If the love of your god gives you that much hate then why would I want it?
You say you rejoice in our destruction. Why is that? Why do you hate us? I don’t hate you and only have good will towards you. Now I don’t like your religion nor the ways it has. But I don’t wish any ill will for you or anyone.
I know you will never read this even if you do you will ignore most of what we say here.
But how can you hate with an all loving god on your side? Wouldn’t you think some of that love would rub off on you? It doesn’t seem like it has.
I’m sad for you. Maybe you need anger management classes

[twobirds]

godsareus said:

Good luck yourself, SimpleObservation.

Thankfully, I am indifferent to your condemnation.

I second that.

[vertigo]

Why are all of you indifferent? You should be glad that you annoy theists, that they hate you because you don't need their religion. You are the walking refutation of their dogma. If a theist hates you, you know you're doing something right.

[GodsAreUs]

vertigo said:

Why are all of you indifferent? You should be glad that you annoy theists, that they hate you because you don't need their religion. You are the walking refutation of their dogma. If a theist hates you, you know you're doing something right.

Because what they think is their problem, not mine. I refuse to lower myself to their level by hating them back, or by virtue of their attitude toward me, being glad. It's a waste of emotional energy that I'd prefer to excercise elswhere.

[vertigo]

I guess you don't care for being judged at all then because what other people think doesn't matter.

[necroshine]

vertigo said:

I guess you don't care for being judged at all then because what other people think doesn't matter.

what other people think about me is no business of mine. i just think it is hypocritical that someone is so full of hate when they claim that they have the love of a god in them.
backwards to me. isn't it you?

[vertigo]

If I understand theists and I do something to annoy them, when I see their annoyance it lends credibility to what I thought. If you try something new and it works out the way you thought, you were right. It means you did your homework, you checked the facts.

The stated aim of this channel is to "spread an understanding of atheism and the atheist through open, intellectual conversation." I did that, trying to explain atheism to people, it had no discernable effect. The problem is that those theists that come here come to preach and not to understand atheists.

I then decided that intelligent explanations should be left for atheists; on theists the words are wasted. It would be far more pertinent to do away with the illusion that theists are reasonable, they are entirely unreasonable. The right thing to do would be to merely dismiss them out of hand.

But why do they come here? It isn't to intellectually converse, it is to preach. Why would theists choose this place to preach? Well, it would be because we appear to be heathen to them. They want to preach to the heathens, the more heathen the better for them. If they (who are smart nonetheless) choose this bunch of heathens to preach to, that is a confirmation that something good is happening here. It tells me that I have done something good.

The fact that not more theists have come is because many secretly fear that they might learn something and be somehow tainted, because the mind is evil. If music can pervert you, atheists must be able to, right? It is the stubborn ones who come here. And when a stubborn and indignant theist chooses me to preach to, it tells me I have done something right.

[GodsAreUs]

vertigo said:

If I understand theists and I do something to annoy them, when I see their annoyance it lends credibility to what I thought. If you try something new and it works out the way you thought, you were right. It means you did your homework, you checked the facts.

The stated aim of this channel is to "spread an understanding of atheism and the atheist through open, intellectual conversation." I did that, trying to explain atheism to people, it had no discernable effect. The problem is that those theists that come here come to preach and not to understand atheists.

I then decided that intelligent explanations should be left for atheists; on theists the words are wasted. It would be far more pertinent to do away with the illusion that theists are reasonable, they are entirely unreasonable. The right thing to do would be to merely dismiss them out of hand.

But why do they come here? It isn't to intellectually converse, it is to preach. Why would theists choose this place to preach? Well, it would be because we appear to be heathen to them. They want to preach to the heathens, the more heathen the better for them. If they (who are smart nonetheless) choose this bunch of heathens to preach to, that is a confirmation that something good is happening here. It tells me that I have done something good.

The fact that not more theists have come is because many secretly fear that they might learn something and be somehow tainted, because the mind is evil. If music can pervert you, atheists must be able to, right? It is the stubborn ones who come here. And when a stubborn and indignant theist chooses me to preach to, it tells me I have done something right.

There is no credibility or reason in faith. It’s faith; the ever ethereal master electrician that rewires the mind’s hardware into a herd and spread-the-word mentality.

Anyone who comes here to preach does so of their own free will and belief that their words mean something. And yes, they do mean something… to them. The fact that they come to preach is more a testament to their arrogance and tenacity than any deeper, intellectually stimulating purpose.

I think the larger issue here is that you attach importance to the judgments of others as a qualifier for your own happiness. Sorry, but happiness comes from within, not without. There is nothing anyone can say that can affect you in a positive or negative fashion unless you choose to take it as such.

[vertigo]

Everything you said except for the last sentence is rubbish. The last sentence is irrelevant because you are merely stating the obvious.

If you like, you can argue that what you said means something to you...